Posts by Sea Breeze

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    JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

    by Sea Breeze in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

    old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

    when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

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    2. slimboyfat
    3. Sea Breeze
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    Sea Breeze
    Could you please elaborate on preaching the good news of the kingdom and the ministry of reconciliation ?

    Jesus said that he was sent to the “lost sheep of house of Israel”, not Gentiles. But, they chose to kill him rather than be ruled by him. He later revealed in a Revelation to John that he would raise up 144k male Jewish virgins to preach the good news of the (coming) kingdom during the GT .

    In the meantime, Jesus raised up The Apostle Paul as an “Apostle to the Gentiles”.

    All the apostles founded Christian churches by announcing that God had been propitiated by a deal (covenant) brokered by Jesus, mankind’s Mediator.

    No more was man God's enemy as far as God was concerned. “Whosoever” accepted the offer was Justified, meaning that they have zero sin debt to pay for; and hence are legally eligible for every conceivable blessing from God including the biggest prize of all - “sonship”.

    The Ministry of Reconciliation swept the Roman world and has been the message of Christians for almost 2000 years.

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    Jolene Chu and Ollimatti Peltonen publication

    by careful in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    just published in cambridge university press's elements in new religious movements series, a short book or oversized pamphlet is now available by two witnesses, jolene chu from warwick and ollimatti peltonen from the selters branch.

    https://www.amazon.com/jehovahs-witnesses-elements-religious-movements/dp/1009509764.

    it's small, just 84 pages, including the bibliography.

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    2. careful
    3. Gorb
  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    The Watchtower has long referred to Christians as:

    1. Bird food that will feed the fowls of heaven with their rotting flesh

    2. Dung on the surface of the earth

    3. Whores and prostitutes

    4. Vomit eaters

    They found out that they don't need to hate Christians as much as they used to, to get the same desired effect.

    Belief in the doctrines of self atonement, 2nd chance theology and Arianism seem to be quite sufficient all by themselves to get people to reject "the forgiveness of sins" stipulated in the new covenant offered in Mt. 26: 227-28.

  • Sea Breeze
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    JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

    by Sea Breeze in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

    old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

    when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

    1. JeffT
    2. slimboyfat
    3. Sea Breeze
  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Touch of Grey,

    We all know your position.

    But this thread is about the very different messages that JW's and Christians bring to the world. Both can be found in NT scripture:

    The Kingdom of God vs. Reconciliation with God

    Which is the correct message for Christians?

    Note: JW's rejected and shut off the ministry of reconciliation (Justification) with God in the 1930's.

    (See Wt. 1938 PG. 104-105 - "The… other sheep… are… not even justified“)